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| Posted by andy94 ability-tw.com 11/26/2008 05:40:15 Play online chess |  Subject: New Kind of Game on Gameknot.Message: I mean games like football or like every team sport. Italy vs United States, for example. Who wants to create a national team, write it on "Team play discussions" and who wants to enter in that team, answer him. About playing, the Captain has to call 15 players and to decide who plays in the own section. There are 10 sections on the basis of rating: 0-1000; 1000-1200; 1200-1450; 1450-1600; 1600-1750; 1750-1900; 1900-2050; 2050-2200; 2200-2350; 2350 and who exceed 2350. The captain chooses one player who has to play, in the respective section, 2 games, one as white and one as black. The captain has to choose 5 substitutes, too. In this way National teams play 20 games and the team with the most number of points (1 for a win; 0,5 for a draw; 0,25 for a lost by # and 0 for a lost by resignation or timeout). If this idea works, nice tournaments can be created! What about this idea? | ||||||
| Posted by bonsaiman ability-tw.com 11/26/2008 08:00:11 Play online chess | Message: I'm not sure if I'm in for such teamplay, but thats for a person reason (takes time) I hope that your idea will make it to became reality, Succes! | ||||||
| Posted by andy94 ability-tw.com 11/26/2008 08:47:22 Play online chess | Message: If 2 peoples wants to become the captain of the same National team, the first who wrote it on "Team play discussions" will be it. ——— Chess piece value — When I teach a class of beginning players, it is customary to explain the “value” of the chess pieces. If both sides exchange pieces, knowing their approximate value will help explain who gets the better deal. Some things are pretty obvious, like if I capture a queen and my opponent captures a bishop, we both know who is doing better. But some things are not so clear. I try to make analogies when I teach. Some hit the mark, and some confuse the student even more! But before I try to confuse my readers, let us look at standard values: Queen = 9, Rook = 5, Bishop = 3, Knight = 3, Pawn = 1. The king does not have a capture value, since we do not capture the king. (You can’t say, “I captured his knight and two pawns for... Posted by ccmcacollister | ability-tw.com 11/26/2008 08:57:37 Play online chess National Teams ... Message: * * * * * * * * * But to me, team events that try to create a completely "Class Tournament" type of pairing structure [matching players within classes rather than strongest available], seem pointless. And I feel it encourages "sandbagging" also. So teams have to win by getting the most Underrated players ...rather than best that can be fielded. However, I am sure many players may like it as you suggested, since many DO play on GK teams now. And those in those matches they usually try to pair people closely rated. Then again, that is precisely why I don't play on a GK team now, after trying it in the past. Because of seeming pointless to me, and because I have watched a number of players start out low rated on a team, some as low as 1200-ish after their rating is no longer provisional, then see them go up to 2000+ one win at a time; with virtually no losses. That leaves a bad taste in my mouth. * * * {Not to say it is unique to GK team play as I have seen the same thing happen in APCT . I believe it was one Florida player for instance, who entered himself into the organization as being a "D" player. Then "N." climbed to well beyond 2200 over the next few years, winning virtually every prize tournament he entered that lacked Masters in it. Not to mention manufacturing a time claim against Master he trailed in a team event section or just couldn't beat legitimately. I have probably never been so disgusted from any Chess matter as to watch a Closet-Master entering sections for several years, supposed to be for Class D only, or C, or B and then taking the prize money meant for real Class players.} * * * To see the same happen with a player here on GK was especially irritating. So If there is a National Event held, I hope players will be chosen that will also value representing their country's integrity, at least as much as its Chess. * * * Okay, sorry for the rant Andy. You know, in the past some players have started team matches of GK vs other sites, and these were organized by the player themself and whatever helpers they found/wanted. Rather than being done by GK management .... so if you wanted to try something like you are suggesting, there is nothing I know of to say that you cannot get it started yourself, just like you are, by posting in the Forums for interest, and go from there. Be the Tournament Director if you wish or you can appoint someone if you would rather. Then call for Captain volunteers, etc. If it concerns you tho, you can write GK and ask if it is alright. To me it seems there has been ample precedent however, that players may pretty much do what they wish, that is within the Rules and Laws of GK site. Of course, to be set-up for National Teams with the same structure and capabilities others teams now use would be extra great. Then you would need GK to do it, and there could be minimum membership required of Captains, as teams must do now. Pr perhaps some team fee. * * * Whatever you decide to do with the idea, and how, I hope to see it happen as it is very interesting in any case. Good luck if you do pursue it~! You could probably get a lot of help from other players if you need it. Regards, Craig A.C. * * * * * * * * * * PS ... Something else that would interest me is if there were to be a team event held for whatever players chose to combine to make a small team of 2 or 3, to 5 players ...as many team events do. Again being unrestricted rating average, or quite a high average in the "Open" or highest section. Then perhaps a couple lower sections too. ——— Chess: Karpov turns the screw — Karpov-Smyslov, Moscow 1972. White has come out of the opening with a certain spatial advantage. Now he has to find a plan. Warning: you're not looking for a sacrificial combination – this is Karpovian, it's all about subtlety and strategy. RB: I've nominated Karpov's Strategic Wins 1: The Making of a Champion by Tibor Karolyi (Quality Chess) for our book of the year award. It's a year-on-year account of Karpov's career from 1961 to 1985, nicely laid out and well annotated. Karpov's style is positional, unhurried and exceptionally deep. Constantly alert to the counter-stroke, he likes to make small improving moves. Some of Karpov's choices remain, even with the help of a chess computer, mysterious, as ... Posted by ccmcacollister | ability-tw.com 11/27/2008 21:48:05 Play online chess ANDY94, R-U going to put this in TEAM PLAY Forums?Message: * * * I looked today, but did not see anything posted there from you. * * * * * I'm shocked there isn't more interest shown here, in this great National Team idea~!? And certainly thought there would be more response to it by now. Have you considered it anymore since your first post ? Wondering if any changes, or if you are working up a full description of it, for TEAM FORUM? Also, still don't know if your Captains must meet any special qualifications like a regular team Captain must? Would someone have to Play in it, to be a Captain ...and would there be any need of a Co-Captain(s) ... meaning someone to act as an Assistant to the Captain? And just curious; Were you thinking of Captaining a team yourself, for Italy ? I might consider doing it for USA, if qualified. Or helping out someone else to do it, if needed. * * * * * * * IT seems it would be Extremely Interesting & entertaining to see some of the Teams clash, especially in a Strongest Available pairings method. USA, Italy, Netherlands would all have quite strong potential players~! And who else, I wonder. Quite a few players here from England and Australia. New Zealand & some of the former Soviet nations might have quite interesting teams as well. And who else~?! Hmmmm * * * * * OF COURSE, the USA has the Largest Membership here on GK and is Home of the site ... How could we Expect ANY other country to COMPETE_VS_USA with all THAT . . . / heh-heh }8-D Oh well. . . . Regards, Craig A.C. ——— Winning in long run requires motivation — Chess is a worthy pursuit for all seasons of life; 6- and 7-year-olds can play a pretty good game. In recent years, chess players in their early teens have become grandmasters. And a 20-year-old, Magnus Carlsen, is the highest-rated chess player in the world. Meanwhile, 82-year-old Viktor Korchnoi is still capable of winning tournaments, though not at the same level as before. When do chess grandmasters reach their peak? The ballpark figure used to be 35. But two chess players in their early 40s — the champion, Viswanathan Anand; and the challenger, Boris Gelfand — will face off for the world title in the summer. Gelfand embraces the age factor. He sees no decline in his ... Posted by andy94 | ability-tw.com 11/28/2008 06:04:44 Play online chess Message: ——— Chess: European Players Are Well Paid for Team Play — The difference between the game in the United States and Europe is easy to illustrate by comparing two team competitions currently under way. The European Club Cup, which ends Sunday in Slovenia, features many of the world’s best chess players, among them Boris Gelfand, Peter Svidler, Teimour Radjabov and Ruslan Ponomariov. They have no particular loyalty to their chess clubs. They are playing because they are being paid, often quite well. And the clubs with the deepest pockets, like OSG Baden Baden in Germany and Tomsk-400 in Russia, are the only ones with a legitimate chance to win the chess tournament. Compare that to the setup of the United States Chess League, which just finished its fifth week of ... |