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| Posted by 1nemesis1 ability-tw.com 1/10/2005 18:07:44 Play online chess |  Subject: Three repeat drawMessage: I am so confused by this , is it three moves that show up in a match for example 1.Kd2 Qd4 2.Kc2 Qc4 3.Kd2 Qd4 4.Kc2 Qc4 5.Kd2 Qd4 stalemate or 10. Kd2 Qd4 28. Kd2 Qd4 50. Kd2 Qd4 stalemate. Thanks for the answers | ||||||||||
| Posted by brunetti ability-tw.com 1/10/2005 18:27:19 Play online chess | You need Message: to repeat the position for three times, not the moves. Your first example is a draw (you call it stalemate, but stalemate is another type of draw), the second one would be a draw if all the three positions after Qd4 are identical. Alex | ||||||||||
| Posted by 1nemesis1 ability-tw.com 1/10/2005 19:18:45 Play online chess | Message: thanks ——— The Scotch Opening, part 1: an introduction — The Scotch Opening is still played at the highest level. But how does use it to gain control of the centre? Carlsen-Leko, Nanjing 2009. White to play. Over the next few weeks we're going to take a look at the Scotch Opening, which arises after 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 exd4 4 Nxd4. The Scotch is hardly new: it got its name after it was used by chess players from the Edinburgh Chess Club in a correspondence match against London (1824-28). But unlike some of its contemporaries from the romantic era – the King's Gambit, for example – the Scotch remains a solid and respected chess opening. Kasparov was responsible for its modern revival after ... Posted by thalagor | ability-tw.com 1/10/2005 22:29:47 Play online chess Message: Also, remember that they're not identical if you could castle in one of the positions but not in another. ——— Viktor Korchnoi versus Boris Spassky — The waning chess year 2009 showed its diminishing strength by giving top billing to a match between two ancient chess warriors - Viktor Korchnoi and Boris Spassky. The duo played an eight-game match in Elista, Republic of Kalmykia, advertised as the Battle of the Giants. Chess fans could watch the play live, provided that they could read Cyrillic. This match featured two silver-haired gentlemen in unusually friendly combat, as no chess championships were involved. Spassky was his usual amiable self and Korchnoi was unusually amiable, even mellow. Spassky and Korchnoi were once bitter opponents contending for the world title. Spassky, 71, has been in virtual retirement for ... Posted by ccmcacollister | ability-tw.com 1/13/2005 03:24:04 Play online chess Right ...Message: and adding to what thalagor said; they are also not identical if an option to capture en passant existed in the first appearance of an otherwise identical position. It would seem to me also, that where an organizations rules on 3 time repetition states that all powers and options must be identical, as well as the piece placements ... then if I move a pawn to the 8th rank that move ... and so have an option of promoting it to ANY piece ... wouldn't that be a non-identical position too? Saying it occurs 2 more times immediately due to me and opponent each moving some other piece back and forth for EG. Or is it in fact identical? I would think so, if we only considered the position at completion of The Move. Yet the other 2 examples,, o-o and ep. only have the added option being open at the start of the move...if o-o is performed, or ep is performed or rejected. Does anyone know for sure? I realize I must breakdown and scrutinize FIDE rules, and probably USCF as well one of these days again. But usually I'd rather play some blitz ! ——— Varuzhan Akobian is lucky in Las Vegas — The North American Open, one of the Continental Chess Association's largest annual tournaments, attracted 613 chess players to Las Vegas Dec. 26 to 29. The 99-player Open section, featuring nine grandmasters, ended in a five-way tie at 5 1/2 -1 1/2 among GMs Varuzhan Akobian (Glendale), Josh Friedel (Richmond, Calif.), Victor Mikhalevski (Israel), Alexander Shabalov (Pennsylvania) and Alex Yermolinsky (South Dakota). On tiebreak, Akobian, who drew three of his rivals, received the first prize of $3,990. Southern California master David Zimbeck tied for sixth place at 5-2 despite facing higher-rated opponents in his final five games. Zimbeck drew against three grandmasters. Alexander Grischuk, ... Posted by muppyman | ability-tw.com 1/13/2005 19:44:58 Play online chess I seem to recall,Message: Fischer once claimed and was awarded a draw for 3 times repepition of position involving both his rooks, even though the rooks had changed places with each other.The adjudicator decided that the positions were still identical. ——— Chess: The worst of all your possible moves — Oscar Wilde quipped that when a pessimist is given a choice between two evils, the pessimist chooses both. In this week’s chess position black’s king is in check and must move. The king has only one bad choice. All other choices lead toward a draw. Please play the chess pessimist and try to find black’s worst move. White has a small space advantage. This should not be enough to win, however. With the rooks on the board and an equal number of pawns the game should be drawn. If black king retreats to b7 or d7, black maintains the balance. The one choice that loses is moving the king to d5. This allows the white rook to slide over to d3, checking black. After ... Posted by ccmcacollister | ability-tw.com 1/13/2005 22:27:59 Play online chess Likewise ....Message: Hi muppyman ! Good point. I recall a similar case too, where the players 2 like pieces had swapped squares but twas otherwise identical ... visually identical. And it counted toward the 3 time repetition of position; as it was stated that the TYPE of piece on a given square must be the same but not the specific one of that type which previously occupied it. But that got my wondering if anyone has seen that type of occurance happen between the players 2 knights, rather than Rooks (which surely must be the most common) ? It's possible but seems like it would be a strange occurance. Even moreso if a player did it with 2 Queens or 2 Same Colored Bishops! !? Has anyone ever seen such rare, if not non-existant, 3-Time-Repetition Draws as those ? ——— The game enjoys a calmer decade — After the turbulent 1990s, the world of chess needed a calmer period. Here are my reflections on the past decade and a few guesses about the future: Bobby Fischer, probably the most famous chess player ever, died in 2008. Fischer had not played publicly since 1992, but he grabbed attention with vile anti-American statements and a long battle to avoid extradition from Japan. He eventually won the battle, sparing chess fans and the U.S. government more embarrassment, and spent his final years in exile in Iceland. His "improved" version of the game, Fischer random chess, has attracted few adherents. Garry Kasparov, another colossal chess figure, retired in 2005. He quickly ... Posted by brunetti | ability-tw.com 1/14/2005 07:25:22 Play online chess ccmcacollisterMessage: About your question, since pawns can't go back, it's impossible to have repetitions when an in-between pawn move (promotion or not) exists. Alex |