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| Posted by cairo ability-tw.com 8/21/2002 06:14:27 |  Subject: ProdigiesMessage: Have a look here: Here are the statistics for GM titles so far: Player Final GM norm at Bobby Fischer 15 years, 6 months, 1 day Judit Polgar 15 years, 4 months, 28 days Peter Leko 14 years, 4 months, 22 days Etienne Bacrot 14 years, 2 months, 0 days Ruslan Ponomaryov 14 years, 0 months, 17 days Teimour Radjabov 14 years, 0 months, 14 days Bu Xiangzhi 13 years, 10 months, 13 days Sergey Karjakin 12 years, 7 months, 0 days The latest candidate grandmaster The latest wunderkind came to the attention of the international press when it was discovered that Ruslan Ponomariov, who won the FIDE world championship early this year, had an 11-year-old player as his official second. Seriously. It was the Ukrainian IM Sergei Karjakin, who later turned up at the Aeroflot tournament in Moscow in January and dutifully chalked up a GM norm there. Young Sergei then played at FIDE Grand Prix in Dubai, where he went out in the first round against Veselin Topalov, the world number 8 player. To be fair, his boss, FIDE world champion Ruslan Ponomariov also suffered a similar fate at the hand of FIDE world women's champion Zhu Chen. On 16.05.2002 John Henderson reported that the Sergei has gained his second GM norm. Playing in the category 8 (2427) Alushta-100 tournament in the Ukraine, he scored 9.5/13 to share first equal in the tournament with GM Evgenij Miroshnichenko. On August 20, 2002, Ukraine Chess Online reported that Sergey Karjakin has fulfilled his last GM norm. He did so at the international chess tournament in Sudak, a town on the Crimea Peninsula, Ukraine. This makes him the youngest GM in the chess history. His FIDE rating is 2523. As John Henderson wrote: "There surely can't be many schoolboys out there who can claim to have been a grandmaster and an official trainer to a world champion during a title match before reaching their teens! You can read more at: www.chessbase.com Best wishes Cairo |
| Posted by calmrolfe ability-tw.com 8/23/2002 03:37:25 | Missed one ? Message: What about Humpy Koneru ? She is a fully fledged GM and she is only 15. Kind regards, Cal |
| Posted by cairo ability-tw.com 8/23/2002 03:59:30 | Is Message: here Grandmastertitle a WGM or is it a GM? Best wishes Cairo |
| Posted by zucan ability-tw.com 8/23/2002 05:17:22 | Do you have dates for these? Message: I am curious if over time, it is easier for younger players to get GM titles... Zucan |
| Posted by calmrolfe ability-tw.com 8/23/2002 08:16:24 | Humpy Message: She gained her norms from competing in Mens Tournaments so I guess she is a full GM and not a WGM. There was a bit of speculation that she had earned her results from low strength Tournaments but when she recently played in the UK in the British Championships she more than held her own against some real tigerish GM's. Kind regards, Cal |
| Posted by thegreatpolgar ability-tw.com 8/26/2002 19:16:04 | She Message: is not (Officially) a GM! The FIDE congress has not awarded the title yet because when a 15-year old girl achieves something that remarkable, she`s is viewed with suspicion. And ways are being explored to see how she can be denied her moment of glory. THE EIGHT WOMEN WHO HAVE ACHIEVED THE TITLE OF INTERNATIONAL GRANDMASTER Gaprindashvili, Nona (USSR - Georgia: b. 3rd May 1941) (1978) Chiburdanidze, Maia (USSR - Georgia: b. 17th January 1961) (1984) Polgar, Susan (Hungary: b. 19th April 1969) (1991) Polgar, Judit (Hungary: b. 23rd July 1976) (1991) Cramling, Pia (Sweden: b. 23rd April 1963) (1992) Xie Jun (China: b. 30th October 1970) (1994) Zhu Chen (China: b. 16th March 1976) (2001) Antoaneta Stefanova (Bulgaria: b. 19th April 1979) (2001) BTW, Humpy made her first GM norm (at the age of 14 years and 84 days) during the summer of 2001 in Hungary at the Hotel Lipa International Category VII tournament in Szentgotthárd. In 3rd Saturday GM Tournament (Oct 2001) held at Belgrade (Yugoslavia) Humpy grabbed both the Title and the 2nd GM Norm (at the age of 14 years and 213 days). Humpy made her 3rd GM Norm in the Elekes Memorial Grandmaster chess tournament (May 2002) held at Budapest. More info at www.KoneruHumby.com/index.html |
| Posted by schachfruend ability-tw.com 8/26/2002 20:39:55 | WGM? Message: Thank you thegreatpolgar for enlightening our male brethren. While 12 yr old Sergey is afforded automatic straight "GM" status without the least eyebrow lift, Humpy Koneru has to be subjected to a microscope, go figure. Why must she be a "WGM", why not just the "GM" title? Do the other "GM's" feel a cold breeze from this? I think so, and I hope they packed their long johns!! |
| Posted by tonlesu ability-tw.com 8/27/2002 00:03:20 | mother nature Message: Don't blame us guys because of what Mother Nature gave us in Abundance. It's called testosterone---Guys have it girls don't. If ladies wanr a real GM title they must enter the testosterone jungle where they will be eaten alive by the Fischers and Kasparovs. Some girls are good (Polgar sisters) but look what it took. They didn't go to school, they studied chess all day everyday. Judit is in the top 10 or so but will never be champion. What does she lack that Kramnik doesn't----TESTOSTERONE!! Hey I'm not knocking women, after all you can't live with em and you can't live er with em. |
| Posted by cairo ability-tw.com 8/27/2002 00:21:34 | HA HA HAH LOL Message: great stuff :-)) I'm honestly never thought about what thegreatpolgar and schachfruend wrote. Thanks for some really usefull information. This just proofe that www.chessbase.com is not up-to-date, they should know about Humpy Koneru! Best wishes Cairo |
| Posted by tonlesu ability-tw.com 8/27/2002 02:44:53 | TESTOSTERONE!! Message: What makes a king out of a slave? Testosterone What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Testosterone What makes an elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist or the dusky dust? What makes a muskrat guard his musk? Testosterone What makes the Sphinx the seventh wonder? Testosterone What makes the dawn come up like thunder? Testosterone What makes the Hottentot so hot? What puts the ape in ape-ricot? What have we got that you ain't got? Tesosterone You can say that again |
| Posted by brunetti ability-tw.com 8/27/2002 02:47:34 | Remarks Message: Koneru is a WGM, woman grandmaster. She made the GM norms, but to get the title one has to be rated 2500+. Since she made the last norm, she remained below that level, so she've to wait. Woman titles are awarded, and womand events are held, because there's a lower number of playing women and they're, on average, markedly weaker than men; so, to avoid having 99% of untitled woman (only about 35 women have full titles), these titles have been created. To get these titles the performances and ratings needed are lower than those for the full titles. Judith Polgar is 19th in the absolute world rankings. Alex |
| Posted by getoutofhere ability-tw.com 8/27/2002 10:18:06 | brunetti Message: this is wrong, I think. The FIDE rules say that you must have a rating of 2500 in the FIDE rating list within 7 years of your FIRST norm. Apparently Humpy peaked at just over 2530 shortly after her first norm, so this is not the sticking point. Anyone know more about the specific objections? |
| Posted by brunetti ability-tw.com 8/27/2002 13:10:59 | Yes, Message: the rule is this: "Grandmaster: Obtained by achieving any of the following: 1.11 Two or more GM results in events covering at least 24 games (30 games without a round robin or Olympiad) and a rating of at least 2500 in the FIDE Rating List current at the time the FIDE Congress considers the application, or within seven years of the first title result being achieved. (...)" I understand this this way: you need a 2500 or higher rating at the moment of the congress that will consider the request. Otherwise, you have up to 7 years from the time you made the first norm, but starting from the time FIDE approve the title with the "subject on rating" clause. E.G. you make the first norm on 1/1/2003, and are 2550. Then you go down to 2499 and mantain that level forever. You made your third norm at 1/1/2006. FIDE approves the title request, but subjecting it on rating. You have up to 1/1/2010 to reach 2500 and get the title. Alex |
| Posted by getoutofhere ability-tw.com 8/27/2002 14:24:57 | Not a clearly stated rule Message: I agree, Alex, that the rule could be interpreted that way, although it is poorly worded. This link from Humpy's site suggests that some people at FIDE interpret it differently. www.koneruhumpy.com/whatisnew1.html Presumably this situation has occurred before, so the issue would be whether this decision is consistent with previous ones or whether she is being treated differently. |
| Posted by frodan ability-tw.com 8/28/2002 07:03:39 | ..just a minute... Message: ...tonlescu,about testosterone: both men and women do have this hormone circulating.In females it is produced almost entirely by the adrenal glands.What do you think gives women drive and fire and libido?And grows the hair in certain parts? |
| Posted by tonlesu ability-tw.com 8/28/2002 09:33:35 | testosterone Message: While men are literally swimming in testosterone---women produce small amounts and even that is reduced by half after menopause. |
| Posted by ravendon ability-tw.com 8/29/2002 02:59:19 | Testosterone Message: Testosterone has no affect on the game except to make you lose. One must calculate and think logically during the game, not go around trying to pick fights, hump someone's leg and raise his blood pressure. |
| Posted by tonlesu ability-tw.com 8/29/2002 03:17:18 | My friend Message: Chess is a fight, a struggle, a war. |
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