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| Posted by spiral ability-tw.com 8/18/2002 11:21:33 |  Subject: Morphy Defense.Message: I wanted to research the Morphy Defense and found these following 3)...a6 Alapin's Defense Deferred Anderssen Attack - Duras Variation Archangelsk Variation Averbakh Variation -Kecskemet Variation Balla Variation Bayreuth Variation Bird's Defense Deferred Borisenko Defense Breyer Defense -Borisenko Variation -Gligoric Variation - Simagin Variation - Breyer Defense (10.d4) Breyer's Variation Caro Variation Center Attack -Center Attack -Basque Gambit Chigorin Defense -Chigorin Defense (12...cxd4) -Chigorin Defense (12...Nc6) -Chigorin Defense Rauzer Attack -Chigorin Defense Yugoslav System Chigorin Variation Classical Defense Deferred Closed 7.Bb3 Variation Closed Defense 5.O-O Be7 -Closed Defense 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d6 -Closed Defense 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d6 9.h3 Na5 10.Bc2 -Closed Defense 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d6 9.h3 Na5 10.Bc2 c5 Cozio Defense Deferred Delayed Exchange Variation English Attack -Grunfeld Variation Exchange Variation -Alapin Gambit -Alekhine Variation -Bronstein Variation -Gligoric Variation -Keres Variation -Romanovsky Variation -Normal Fianchetto Defense Deferred Flohr System Graz Variation Keres Defense Keres Variation Kholmov Variation Leonhardt Variation Lutikov Variation Marshall Gambit -Herman Steiner Variation -Kevitz Variation -Marshall Counterattack (11...c6) -Marshall Defense (12.d4) -Marshall Defense (14...Qh3) -Spassky Variation Modern Steinitz Defense -Duras (Keres) Variation -Exchange Variation -Richter Variation -Alapin Variation -Fianchetto Variation -Modern Steinitz Defense 4.Ba4 d6 5.c3 -Modern Steinitz Defense 4.Ba4 d6 5.c3 Bd7 -Modern Steinitz Defense 4.Ba4 d6 5.O-O -Noah's Ark Trap (4.Ba4 d6 5.d4 b5 6.Bb3 Nxd4 7.Nxd4 exd4 8.Qxd4 c5) -Rubinstein Variation -Siesta Variation -Kopayev Variation -Three Knights Variation Moller Defense Noah's Ark Trap (4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 d6 8.d4 Nxd4 9.Nxd4 exd4 10.Qxd4 c5) Open Defense -Berlin Variation -Bernstein Variation -Karpov Gambit -Classical Defense -Breslau Variation -Malkin Variation -Open Defense (6.d4 b5 7.Bb3 d5 8.dxe5 Be6 9.c3 Be7 10.Re1) -Tarrasch Trap -Friess Attack -Howell Attack -Adam Variation -Ekstrom Variation -Italian Variation -Motzko Attack I -Motzko Attack II -St.Petersburg Variation -Dilworth Variation -Knorre Variation -Open Defense 6.d4 -Open Defense 6.d4 b5 -Open Defense 6.d4 b5 7.Bb3 -Open Defense 6.d4 b5 7.Bb3 d5 8.dxe5 -Open Defense 6.d4 b5 7.Bb3 d5 8.dxe5 Be6 - Open Defense 6.d4 b5 7.Bb3 d5 8.dxe5 Be6 9.c3 - Richter Variation -Riga Variation -Schlechter Defense -Berger Variation -Tartakower Variation -Trifunovic Variation -Walbrodt Variation -Zukertort Variation Pilnik Variation Rabinovich Variation Rossolimo Defense Schliemann Defense Deferred Smyslov Defense Spanish Opening 5.O-O -Spanish Opening 5.O-O b5 6.Bb3 d6 Spanish Opening 7.Bb3 d6 8.d4 Spanish Opening 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d6 9.h3 Steinitz Deferred (Russian Defense) -Rubinstein Variation -Boleslavsky Variation -Lipnitsky Variation Suetin Variation Taimanov Variation Tarrasch Variation Trajkovic Counterattack Variation 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Wing Attack Worrall Attack -Sharp Line -Solid Line Yates Variation -Bogoljubow Variation Zaitsev Variation Is it worth studying all of these or just a few, in which case, which ones? Please help! |
| Posted by refutor ability-tw.com 8/18/2002 12:25:08 | only study a few Message: if you play it as black, you're the one making most of the choices here...white can force the exchange lines and the worrall and anderssen lines, but for the most part black is the one making the decisions. play over most of these and see which ones look interesting to you. |
| Posted by philaretus ability-tw.com 8/18/2002 14:21:03 | Better still... Message: .....don't study any of them. Avoid the Ruy Lopez as both White and Black --- too much analysis to learn. |
| Posted by cosanostra ability-tw.com 8/18/2002 14:23:33 | spiral Message: considering your rating I say do not bother. You should play around having fun, learning tactical play- mate combos and such. Just look at info.ex.ac.uk/~dregis/DR/abc2.html and develop from there. Once you have improved your game it will be necessary to learn some openings however then you will also have developed a taste for how you like playing. Then you can choose. |
| Posted by atrifix ability-tw.com 8/18/2002 14:30:31 | Why are you studying these? Message: Are you writing a doctoral thesis on the Morphy Defense, or are you playing it as White or as Black? My advice if you are playing it as White: study either the Exchange Variation or the following: the Steinitz Defense, the Moller and Archangel Defenses, the Open Ruy Lopez, the Marshall Attack, and typical closed lines such as Chigorin/Breyer--especially the Zaitsev. The Zaitsev Variation probably is the most theoretically important. Also, if you are playing the Lopez as White, you should study other Black tries besides 3...a6; most notably, the Berlin Defense and the Classical Variation with 3... Bc5. If you're playing it as Black, look at a few of these and then study one of them extensively. In time you'll figure out which of these suits you, then study only that. If you're writing a doctoral thesis, good luck. |
| Posted by atrifix ability-tw.com 8/18/2002 14:31:50 | Also Message: I should agree with cosanotra, studying these variations is not nearly as important as learning how to play middlegames and endgames. |
| Posted by philaretus ability-tw.com 8/18/2002 14:33:36 | However..... Message: ......if you still want to play it as Black, use the Berlin Defence: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 There isn't an enormous amount of analysis, and it involves some tricky piece play in the opening --- just the sort of practice that you'll benefit from. |
| Posted by spiral ability-tw.com 8/18/2002 14:50:36 | Message: Thank you all for your replies. cosanostra i know that it is important to learn middlegame combinations and such, and I think that I am slowly getting the idea. However with a lot of my games I am bumbling through the opening and get stuck with a bad position to try for combinations or other middlegame tactics, I wanted to study an opening to get the feel for it to try and gain an upperhand to better practice the middle game (not a perfect idea I know, mistakes are the best to learn from) atrifix doctoral thesis was hardly in my scope of vision when I started the Morphy, but it quickly snowballed from there and I was lost, I posted these to see what others felt was the best route to take. As to your question, it is mostly as a Black reply to White's Ruy Lopez however knowing the defense is a vital part in knowing how to break it down. Thank you for your recommendations. philaretus I'll take that to heart and play around with it, thank you. Thank you all again for your input. spiral |
| Posted by cosanostra ability-tw.com 8/18/2002 15:38:36 | spiral Message: If you want some quick learning I can help you out. Just log into MSN and send me a message and I'll show you some overall tactics ok? |
| Posted by acne ability-tw.com 8/18/2002 17:29:18 | Message: I think you may study exchange variation, modern steinitz defense and perhaps open defense? what's a marshall gambit? |
| Posted by refutor ability-tw.com 8/18/2002 17:50:44 | marshall Message: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 www.chessgames.com/perl/chessopening?eco=C89 |
| Posted by spiral ability-tw.com 8/18/2002 18:07:34 | Marshall Gambit Message: The line that I have for the Marshall Gambit is 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8. c3 d5 From there the Herman Steiner Variation goes 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8. c3 d5 9.exd5 e4 The Marshall Counter Attack goes 1. e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11. Rxe5 c6 The Kevitz Variation goes 1. e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11. Rxe5 c6 12. Bxd5 cxd5 13.d4 Bd6 14. Re3 Rb8 The Marshall Defense 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8. c3 d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nxe5 11. Rxe5 c6 12. d4 Marshall Defense 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8. c3 d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nxe5 11. Rxe5 c6 12. d4 Bd6 13. Re1 Qh4 14. g3 Qh3 Spassky Variation 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8. c3 d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nxe5 11. Rxe5 c6 12. d4 Bd6 13. Re1 Qh4 14. g3 Qh3 15. Be3 Bg4 16. Qd3 Rae8 17. Nd2 Re6 18. a4 Hope it helped. |
| Posted by acne ability-tw.com 8/20/2002 17:55:00 | Message: thank you |
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