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Posted by peppe_l
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7/21/2002
11:28:39
Subject: Non-GK ratings

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Here is a sort of question sheet for folks at GK! This is just for fun, not for comparing different rating systems or to have a debate about credibility of internet ratings etc (IMO different rating systems are not comparable anyway). Please respond ppl!



An example



My rating here at GK : 1630 (provisional)

My other ratings...

USCF (U.S chess federation) rating : 1470

www.chessclub.com : 1590

www.yahoo.com : 1770





Posted by brobishkin
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7/21/2002
11:49:39
Another example...

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Why On-Line chess ratings mean nothing in the chess world... Do you think this fellow Peppe could receive the same win/lose/draw ratio... He is now in 59th place on gameknot in just 12 games played... Try that in the real chess world...

Bro...


Posted by nsyncluver
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7/21/2002
11:59:07
low rating

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mine is like 406

Posted by peppe_l
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7/21/2002
12:27:00
brobishkin

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Yes you are right, although please keep in mind my rating here is still provisional, and at least I am quite sure my true level here is lower than my currect rating shows.

Win & lose ratio is more or less meaningless if one has only 12 games played, like I have right now. Naturally in corr games one of my biggest weaknesses - inconsistency - has less effect since I have more time and therefore simple blunders occur less frequently in my games, compared to otb play.

If you read "Ratings" thread you can find my personal opinion about internet ratings, and once you read them, you will find out I agree 100% with you here. Online ratings mean nothing in real world, and yes, my (over)rating here is a good example of that. BUT like I pointed out, this thread is for fun and interest only - it is NOT for debate or boasting etc etc etc. This is ONLY because at least I am interested to see where people here play, and what level they represent in otb or even internet (blitz) play, and I hope others are too?

BTW, those example ratings were not my ratings :)


Posted by v_glorioso12
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7/21/2002
12:29:50


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my USCF rating is 1502, and my GK rating is 1527... seems pretty close to me
:-).....


Posted by philaretus
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7/21/2002
12:32:47
Me.....

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.....I stopped being concerned about my rating when brunetti reached 2600.

Posted by nsyncluver
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7/21/2002
12:35:31
wow cool!

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thats alot!!

Posted by tulkos
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7/21/2002
13:02:32
It's weird---

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my rating USCF LIVE is 1717,I had even managed to get it to 1916 when it was provisional,but here on gameknot it's 1513.i think i pay more attention to a live game.

Posted by sjoroos
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7/21/2002
14:20:40
Havn't played IRL for many years..

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.. but at the age of 15 i had an ELO of about 2000.
Then i took a break from chess (being a musician)
and started again with correspondance chess just a
couple of years ago.


Posted by acne
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7/21/2002
22:02:25


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i dont have any non-gk rating

Posted by calmrolfe
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7/22/2002
02:14:37
Non GK ratings

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My GK rating is 1774 (14 wins - no defeats)

My Chessworld rating is 2195 (13 wins - no defeats)

Globalworld rating is 1883 (2 wins - no defeats)

Atlantic Chess rating is 1425 (11 wins, one draw - no defeats)

The best two sites to play on are GK and ChessWorld. I have pretty well given up on Atlantic but I am helping to Beta test the Globalworld site, how could I refuse to help when it is run by Alexandra Kosteniuk........!!!

:)

Cal



Posted by adrianallen
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7/22/2002
03:20:34
Ratings

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GK - Around 1700
Yahoo - around 1490 last time I player
My reallife rating was about 1880, but that was 10-11 years ago and I havent played a tournament since then.

So many people cheat on games like Yahoo, I played one person and beat them quite easily in the first game, second game it was like playing someone else. First game they did not seem to have any opening knowledge, second game they played the sicilian like a pro and beat me easily in the endgame.


Posted by lordoftherings
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7/22/2002
12:49:09
mine

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my UKD (turkish rating-local) is 1849 GK-rating 1772....

Posted by edmaster
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7/29/2002
19:03:59
ONE OF MY RATINGS.

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1998:YAHOO CHESS RATING:2287
AS I SAID BEFORE YAHOO IS INFLATED TO NO LESS
THAN(400)RATING POINTS TO(500)RATING POINTS!
IT ISN'T THE RATING FORMULA!IT IS THAT THEY COMBINE SPEED CHESS WITH SLOW CHESS TO CALCULATE RATINGS.I PLAYED SOME OF THE HIGHEST RATED PLAYERS ON THIS SITE AND CRUSHED THEM IN SLOW GAMES THAT IS HOW I ESTABLISHED A MASTER CHESS RATING OF(2287)
SUBTRACT(400)POINTS AND YOU GET(1887)AROUND WHAT MY GAMEKNOT CHESS RATING IS!




Posted by v_glorioso12
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7/29/2002
19:12:05
my

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GK:1575
USCF:1502
ICC:1508

still close.....


Posted by pbarts89
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7/29/2002
21:14:31
mine

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USCF 1900 or thereabouts I recently got beat up at a tornado tournament (0-2-1) and I think it will probably go down to about that range. Have been as high as 2013.

GK 1750 The level of play here amongst the top players is somewhat shocking!

InstantChess.com 1865 Blitz only


Posted by absolutegenius
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7/30/2002
01:36:55
1082 here

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but 1215 on www.redhotpawn.com and 1259 on www.kasparovchess.com...

Posted by peppe_l
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7/30/2002
03:34:50
Master?

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(originally posted by edmaster)

"I PLAYED SOME OF THE HIGHEST RATED PLAYERS ON THIS SITE AND CRUSHED THEM IN SLOW GAMES THAT IS HOW I ESTABLISHED A MASTER CHESS RATING OF(2287) SUBTRACT(400)POINTS AND YOU GET(1887)AROUND WHAT MY GAMEKNOT CHESS RATING IS!"

I thought master title is given based on FIDE rating only, and therefore master strength is measured in similar way.


Posted by brunetti
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7/30/2002
06:45:10
Master title

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is given by national federations, with different parameters (an Australian master may be much stronger or much weaker of a Canadian one, I don't know the respective criteria).
FIDE awards only GM, IM and FM (FIDE Master) titles. The latter is the "simpliest" to achieve, being awarded on reaching a 2300 FIDE rating and having played at least 24 (if I remember well) rated games.

Alex


Posted by peppe_l
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7/30/2002
08:07:01
Alex,

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Thanks for correction.

One thing that has surprised me is many players here have higher otb rating in comparison to GK rating. I know the (national) otb rating of few players here, and clearly GK rating tends to be higher in comparison to their otb rating. Like Alex already pointed out national ratings have some differences, but there is less variance than between internet ratings given by different sites. I have played at www.pogo.com and www.kasparovchess.com and can say for example **** at pogo defitenitely cant expect as good rating at KC. Also, there are differences between different levels - for example at Pogo it´s relatively easy to reach 2000+ but after that (due the rating system) it´s more difficult. This means if one is 1700 at pogo, one can expect much lower rating at KC, whereas Pogo&KC ratings of someone 2100 (at Pogo) are propably closer to each other. Of course there are other factors too, like used time controls, choosed opponents etc...

Anyway, so far it has been interesting to read where people here play, and how many have otb experience and otb rating.

Keep the posts coming ppl :)





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