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| Posted by knightrider7 ability-tw.com 7/14/2002 16:57:51 |  Subject: who was the greatest pre-teen chess playerMessage: i've heard it said that Samuel Reshevsky was the only true chess prodigy because he was beating grandmasters as a pre-teen. who else played great chess at such a young age? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted by v_glorioso12 ability-tw.com 7/15/2002 15:34:07 | Message: Bobby Fischer, oh, there is a 14-year-old, Hikaru Nakamura, he lives in white plains, new york, and he is 2511 USCF.... but.... he's not really a pre-teen.... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted by brobishkin ability-tw.com 7/15/2002 19:44:46 | Nothing compairs... Message: Bobby Fischer... The one and only Chess Prodigy in his own unique way... Bro... and his own opinion... ——— Chess: Knight moves — The finely tuned positional antennae of Ulf Andersson sense a problem requiring a harmonious solution. More from the master of positional play, Ulf Andersson. How did he manage to improve his position? RB: Last week I went for an exchange sacrifice in the game Andersson-Tempone. It wasn't the continuation that Andersson chose, which should perhaps be enough to warn me against the move I am thinking of here – 1…Rd4. If White accepts the offer, 2 Bxd4 then 2…exd4 and the knight, which is pinned to the queen, is lost. But, of course, it's not going to be that simple. White can refuse to play ball and instead go ... Posted by brunetti | ability-tw.com 7/15/2002 20:04:54 A prodigyMessage: is usually defined as a baby under 10-12 years performing as a superior adult; I don't know about Fischer's great performances before his 12, while Reshevsky gave simultaneous exhibitions at age of 8. Alex ——— Rise of computers has lifted game — Bobby Fischer was rarely wrong about chess matters. But in one critical issue, he erred grievously: Late in life, he concluded that chess was played out. Most of the important possibilities in the opening phase had been explored and understood, he thought, and grandmasters’ reliance on computers had taken the creativity out of the game. But it seems that the opposite is true. A complete database of chess games now would be in the millions, not in the tens or hundreds of thousands as in Fischer’s time. And that volume continues to grow as an increasing number of strong chess players, playing an ever larger number of games, dominates chess. Not surprisingly, chess players’ repertoires have ... Posted by derolleole | ability-tw.com 7/15/2002 20:10:25 DEAR CHESSCOMRADESMessage: IT WAS REALLY THE WORLD'S GREATEST PLAYER, MR. BOBBY FISHER WHO BEATED SOME GMS IN HIS EARLY YEARS. HE WASNT ONLY THE GREATEST ADULT PLAYER OF ALL TIMES ALSO THE BEST TEEN GENIUS CRUSHING ALL THOSE SKULLS OF HIS POOR VICTIMS OF HIS AGE. Oh my god, what did I do ? I sincerely apologize for this "blasphemic" kind of posting. But did you all know already, that it's really not that easy to write with that caps ? Punctuation isn't possible at all :) Comfortably dumb, Ole ——— Armenia Takes Team Title; Chinese Player Is Top Scorer — The Chess Olympiad, which was first held in 1924, is the most elite national team event in the chess world. But the World Team Chess Championship is in some ways more competitive because it includes only 10 squads, so there are no easy matches. This year, Armenia, the No. 4 seed, was the runaway winner at the chess event, which ended on Tuesday in Ningbo, China. It was hardly an upset; the Armenians, behind Levon Aronian, have won two of the last three Chess Olympiads, which are held every two years. China, the No. 6 seed, finished second, and Ukraine lived up to its seeding by winning the bronze medal. Russia, which was the top seed and had won the last two Team Chess Championships, finished ... Posted by zdrak | ability-tw.com 7/15/2002 23:01:08 Arturo PomarMessage: I believe Arturo Pomar made a draw with Alekhine when he was 10 or 12 (that is, Pomar was 10, not Alekhine ;-) Later Pomar went on to become a top-class GM, but he never was a contender for world championship. ——— Armenia replaces England as nation that punches above its weight — In the 1980s and 1990s England punched above their weight in world chess events. Silver medals in the Chess Olympiads of 1984, 1986 and 1988 and bronze at the 1985 and 1989 world teams were followed by gold at the 1997 Euroteams. After that the England chess team aged or retired, while competition increased with the break-up of the Soviet Union. There have been hopes in the past two years that a new England chess group could become international contenders, as Luke McShane, David Howell and Gawain Jones became strong chess grandmasters to support the established stars Michael Adams and Nigel Short. But recently McShane has reverted to a full-time job and is not competing in ... Posted by acne | ability-tw.com 7/15/2002 23:41:16 Message: Etienne Bacrot? ——— Chess-mad Armenia's heroes return in triumph — Armenia's top chess players, lauded as heroes after winning the 2011 World Team Chess Championship this week, vowed on Friday to boost the small chess-mad country's status in the game even further. The team's head coach said that future successes will be secured through official support and an unusual new scheme to promote the game among schoolchildren initiated by Armenian President Serzh Sarkisian, a keen chess player who also heads the country's Chess Federation. "Because of this attention and care, we can improve our game," coach Arshak Petrosian told a press conference, two days after returning from the chess tournament in China to a rapturous welcome from fans and ... Posted by tonlesu | ability-tw.com 7/16/2002 00:21:09 FischerMessage: It certainly wasn't Fischer! The question was pre-teen wasn't it? In July 1956 Fischer (13yrs. 3mo.) won a junior tournament in Philly---As Edmaster has told us, lo these many times, his uscf rating at that time was 1830, hardly scintilating. He was definitely not a pre-teen phenom. Posted by zdrak | ability-tw.com 7/16/2002 00:44:17 statistically speaking ... Message: According to the chess-statistics site chessmetrics.com, the strongest pre-teen of all times was Alexander Riazantsev, who scored an amazing 2360 rating somewhere between his 10th and 11th birthdays look here: www.chessmetrics.com/AL/AL11.htm Posted by calmrolfe | ability-tw.com 7/16/2002 01:34:11 Sergei Karjakin of UKRAINE is 2489 Message: Twelve year old Sergei Karjakin of the Ukraine has already defeated many Grandmasters and now has an ELO of 2489. When he was just eleven years old he was appointed as Trainer to Ruslan Ponomariov and helped Ruslan to win the FIDE World Championship in 2001. Kind regards, Cal Posted by legion | ability-tw.com 7/16/2002 07:14:42 DerolleoleMessage: LOL. Big plus for that! :-) Posted by __mda__ | ability-tw.com 7/16/2002 09:34:32 what about..Message: Capablanca? Didn't he beat Corzo ( champion of Cuba ) when he was 11 or 12? Corzo wasn't of grandmaster strength but was still a strong player.. Posted by derolleole | ability-tw.com 7/16/2002 13:30:03 Bacrot, Etienne...Message: ...is a very good player now. born: 1983 FIDE ELO: 2653, GM Has scored an amazing 3045 in the german Bundesliga 1999/2000, 6 points out of 6 games. But I don't know if he was that strong before ? Besides: Thanx, legion :) Comfortably dumb, Ole Posted by brunetti | ability-tw.com 7/16/2002 17:24:46 How is the 3045Message: performance calculated, since a 100% score has a performance equivalent of infinite points? :) Alex Posted by calmrolfe | ability-tw.com 7/17/2002 01:19:47 Polgar alsoMessage: Sofia Polgar also was credited with a 3000+ ELO performance in a Tournament, thus proving that on occasions she can rival her young sibling (Judit). Posted by atrifix | ability-tw.com 7/17/2002 14:13:27 Message: Certainly Fischer was not a pre-teen prodigy, he was merely average, and he claims that one day he just "got good". The most obvious choice for young prodigy is probably Capablanca, however, who allegedly learned how to play chess very well when he was only four years old, and defeated Corzo and Marshall soundly in matches in his formative years. Also, Morphy should be mentioned; although he did not play very many matches or games, he was an extremely dominant player from a very early age. Of course, now there are all kinds of preteen sensations, but none are able to dominate in the same way that Capablanca, Reshevsky, etc. did. Posted by derolleole | ability-tw.com 7/18/2002 07:33:33 Good question, brunetti...Message: but I think that the way of calculating the german national ratings allows such "scores". Also, I only copied the score from the german database of national ratings. But don't ask me how it is calculated, I haven't got the time to translate the whole calculation text from the german version :) Comfortably dumb, Ole Posted by vennegoortheend | ability-tw.com 7/22/2002 04:16:29 11 year old boyMessage: There is an 11 year old boy out of russia named: (I forgot) who has got 2 GM results allready and is tactical speciallist and helped Topalov at the 'worldchampionship candidates' |