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fleetdreams 20 ( +1 | -1 )
Lucena position for win This game board #1149183 was won because I was able to get to the 'Lucena position'. Think move 49 may have been the clincher.
riga 9 ( +1 | -1 )
ok That's nice and all, good game. but was there a special reason you decided to post it?
jeffz_2002 39 ( +1 | -1 )
Nice job I guess it's posted to show that endgame knowledge is good after all (which is a lesson for us beginner types).

But a question, fleetdreams: why did you bring your Queen out so early? I didn't think that the Philidor defense called for this ... let me know if I was wrong. It seems like you lost some time at the beginning ... just curious.

Congrats on the good endgame! Jeff
jeffz_2002 12 ( +1 | -1 )
sorry... ... don't mean to be a dork, criticizing your play. Hope the question is taken in the spirit in which it was asked.

fleetdreams 102 ( +1 | -1 )
Like Jeff said Around move 33 i think it was, I felt might be able to get the rook and pawn vs rook and remembered something about a specific formation that wins. Did a bit of searching and came up with the Lucena info.

I've lost plenty of end games which were 'mine' due to incorrect moves and this time came out on top.

I think made the right move at move 49 to ensure victory.

I quote David Surrat from his website
"This position, and ones similar in characteristic, are known as the Lucena position. The Lucena position is won for White, regardless of who is on move, and regardless of which file the pawn is on, except for the a & h files.

Why is this position so important to understand? Well, consider that rook endings are the most common in chess (accounting for nearly 60% of all endgames) and often a material imbalance of a mere pawn occurs which carries over to the endgame. Knowledge of this type of ending is essential to the practical chess player."

It helped me, now maybe it will help others.
fleetdreams 9 ( +1 | -1 )
No problem Jeff I brought her out to avoid an exchange and having to take with my King if the file opened up.
fleetdreams 86 ( +1 | -1 )
this thread is within top 10 google search results for lucena position.

more helpful info...

here is a quote from
This is the so-called "Lucena Position."
You must know this position if you are going to master R+P endings!!
(Virtually all R+P end-game knowledge is predicated on
understanding this one endgame!)


the page had some good tips....

The first step is to check and drive the Black King away...

One of the first things to learn is a good general rule of thumb: In order for the
side with the Pawn to win, the opposing King must be driven 2 files away! ...

Part of the technique. Find the promotion square for the pawn, and count
five (5) rows back. This is the row where the White Rook must go to now!!...

brobishkin 11 ( +1 | -1 )
Mr. Dreamer... To add to the bit of knowledge you have obtained... The term you refer to, of where the Rook should go is known as "building a bridge"...
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